[Torg] Jumping in Torg

Benjamin Grant benn at 4efix.com
Wed Dec 10 21:27:01 EST 2008


Again, I am fine with talking about air resistance or energy or anything
-*but* I only want to handle one aspect at a time, and the current topic is
momentum. ;)  If you want to move on from momentum to air resistance, I am
fine with that.

-Benn Grant
eFix Computer Consulting
benn at 4eFix.com
603.283.6601


-----Original Message-----
From: torg-bounces at justintimeadventures.com
[mailto:torg-bounces at justintimeadventures.com] On Behalf Of Stephen John
Smoogen
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:25 PM
To: torg at justintimeadventures.com
Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: [Torg] Jumping in Torg

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 7:12 PM,  <travisjhall at optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> Benjamin Grant <benn at 4efix.com> wrote:
>>
>> I do not deny that I have failed to communicate it well to you - the fact
>> that you are still claiming that I haven't is proof of that.  But that's
the
>> catch 22, and I don't know how to demonstrate further to you that I have
>> when I have and you come back to me saying that I haven't.
>
> The issue isn't when you first did it, but whether it has been done. Even
if you think it has been done, as the matter is in dispute, it can be easily
resolved by doing it. That way it has definitely been done, no matter
whether it had been done previously.
>
> In other words, if you want to make your point, do the comparison of a
speedster to an otherwise-identical non-speedster. Do it clearly and
explicitly, without hiding it amongst a bunch of other stuff that would
obscure whether it has been done.
>
> Then it will be indisputable.
>
> Just remember that if you give the non-speedster an advantage the
speedster does not have (like a cannon) you invalidate the comparison (for
this purpose).

Also realize that if you keep pulling out things you don't want to
consider "air resistance", "energy usage", etc it makes the
conversation also harder. Yes the super-speedster is running at X
velocity.. but how are they doing it. If they are doing it via say
momentum conversion (as Flash was doing in the mid 1990's) then the
distance he is going to 'jump' is not going ot be the same as he
runs... because he isn't being shot out of a cannon.. he is just under
a constant momentum when touching the ground. If the Speedster is
doing it from super strong legs then yes he is going to jump further..
but he won't be able to run faster than a certain speed because the
laws of physics and how a leg is put together put a hard limit on
that. If he is running faster than that then there has to be some sort
of explanation.. most comics/cartoons/have a limitation to make the
storyworld stay stable.

Stable because at some point you come up with the speedster carrying a
cannon ball and then letting it fly so it gets a KE of a nuke. And at
that point, the story is pretty much.. oh look another city gone
because of a bowling ball.

You as the GM would have to make that determination for your world..


-- 
Stephen J Smoogen. -- BSD/GNU/Linux
How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed
in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice"
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