[Torg] Any ever thought ofor triedreversing/altering Torg'sMetapower vs Advancement struggle?

Morgan Nash morgan.nash.uk at googlemail.com
Thu Mar 12 11:11:11 EDT 2009


I'm going to say something. I really don't want to because I've tried to
stay out of these arguments for my own sanity but I feel I have to.

Benn, I agree that Travis can be pretty darn aggressive in his language
sometimes but not everything you quoted above is an attack. However, I have
actually had to stop replying to any discussions on this group that you
start because of your own attitude towards those that disagree with you.
Your words are frequently dismissive, high-handed and inflammatory and you
regularly state opinion as fact.

Until you (and others) learn to phrase enquiries in a manner that actually
invites polite discussion rather than seeming to merely seek affirmation of
decisions that have already been made, people will get annoyed. Moderate
your own words, gentlemen, and others will do the same. The alternative, as
I have done, is that readers will simply not reply to requests for input as
nobody wants to be constantly brow-beaten.

Morgan



On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Benjamin Grant <benn at 4efix.com> wrote:

> " Come on, let's have some real discussion, not just denial."  is an
> attack.
>
> " I think you need to look more closely at your definition of success and
> the reward scheme in use in your game." used in your context is an attack.
>
> " Seriously, Ben, you need to get out from under your rock." is an attack.
>
> " Don't be ridiculous." is an attack.
>
> " If you don't want me to talk about these things, don't bring them up." is
> an attack.
>
> " But make up your own damn mind." is an attack.
>
> The above statements, the way you used them, the tone you used, and the
> context they were in your posts, are all attacks.
>
> I do not need to say more.
>
> -Benn Grant
> eFix Computer Consulting
> benn at 4eFix.com
> 603.283.6601
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: torg-bounces at justintimeadventures.com [mailto:torg-
> > bounces at justintimeadventures.com] On Behalf Of Travis James Hall
> > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:52 AM
> > To: torg at justintimeadventures.com
> > Subject: RE: [Torg] Any ever thought ofor triedreversing/altering
> > Torg'sMetapower vs Advancement struggle?
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: torg-bounces at justintimeadventures.com
> > > [mailto:torg-bounces at justintimeadventures.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Benjamin Grant
> > > Sent: Friday, 13 March 2009 1:43 AM
> > > To: torg at justintimeadventures.com
> > > Subject: RE: [Torg] Any ever thought ofor
> > > triedreversing/altering Torg'sMetapower vs Advancement struggle?
> > >
> > > Ahh, I recall (I think).
> > >
> > > Travis, you are the one that makes things personal and often
> > > strays from civility, right?
> > >
> > > ;p
> >
> > ...he says, making the thread's first personal attack.
> >
> > Look, it's a simple principle. If you don't want to talk about
> > something,
> > don't talk about it. If you do, you put it on the table for discussion.
> >
> > Travis Hall
> >
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