[Torg] Single Shot as Multi-

Steve Crow crow_steve at hotmail.com
Tue May 12 01:25:00 EDT 2009


Yes, it was my bad saying ROF when I meant Ammo.

Thanks for the info.

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> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 18:34:50 -0600
> From: ksjim at sdc.org
> To: torg at justintimeadventures.com
> Subject: Re: [Torg] Single Shot as Multi-
> 
> Steve Crow wrote:
> 
> > Page 97 of the 2e rules says that "Some single-shot weapons may be fired 
> > multiple times in one round."
> 
> > Which single-shot weapons? "Some" suggests that some single-shot weapons 
> > can not? Which ones can't?
> 
> Primarily the already mentioned literally single-shot weapons like 
> flintlocks, muskets, etc. Basically almost all firearms below Tech 19
> and some early Tech 19 ones (the chassepot rifle in the Kanawa Personal
> Weapons supplement for example) can't do it. And of course any modern
> weapons which only have an Ammo of 1 such as the KPW's Pardinni Fiocchi
> pistol.
> 
> > And how many bullets do you have to use to get the subsequent +3 damage 
> > bonus described? The example describes Quin as firing "as fast as he 
> > can" with his Desert Eagle. The Desert Eagle has a ROF of 6, but it's 
> > not described how many bullets Quin is using here.
> 
> > Firing two guns gets a +2 damage (page 95). So that's presumably two 
> > bullets, giving +2 damage. So how many bullets do you have to fire from 
> > a single gun to get +3 damage?
> 
> Just to be nitpicky, the Desert Eagle has Ammo 6, there is no ROF value
> in Torg writeups. As also already mentioned, the ammunition sidebar on
> p96 says that SFaM uses up three normal combat rounds of ammo, so for
> the Desert Eagle that's three bullets.
> 
> > Can two gun and "Single Shot as Multi-" be combined? If you fire two 
> > Desert Eagles and fire both multiple times, do you do... +5 damage? Or 
> > something else? Or can you not do it?
> 
> Hm, I thought I'd explicitly gone over that in the R&E but it doesn't
> look like I did. I did note on p95 "Characters using two semiautomatic
> or automatic firearms at the same time will often combine this option
> with the 'Single, Burst and Automatic Fire' option found later in this
> section." so I intended to but maybe I figured it was obvious and didn't
> need explaining. Yes, two guns plus SFaM is a +5 DV bonus.
> 
> > And finally, can you One-on-Many and fire multiple bullets? Given you're 
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > already firing multiple bullets, presumably... But as long as you have 
> > enough bullets to hit each target twice (say, Quin multi-attacking three 
> > opponents and firing six bullets, the ammo of the Desert Eagle), can it 
> > be done?
> 
> Theoretically you should only be able to hit as many targets as bullets
> you fire, so with SFaM you'd be limited to three combat rounds worth of
> ammo so three bullets = three targets in the case of a pistol. If you're
> firing two pistols at once you could increase that to six targets. But
> every now and then you see in adventure fiction heroes hitting more than
> one target with a single projectile so I'd say it's okay for GMs to
> allow for OoM attacks to be made on more opponents than projectiles the
> character can shoot in one round. Just be sure to add an appropriate
> penalty on top of the OoM. ;)
> 
> -- 
> Kansas Jim, Torg guru (ksjim (at) sdc (dot) org)
> Torg website: http://www.sdc.org/~ksjim/index.html
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