[Torg] Dominick's view on Traditions

[Jasyn Jones]

On Feb 19, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Dominick Riesland wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Jasyn Jones <jasynj at gmail.com> wrote:

>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Dominick Riesland wrote:

Skip to the important bits:

>> In extant Torg, Ayslish magicians cannot use Engineering spells or cast Occult rituals without learning new skills, that is, learning how the other Tradition works. Core Earth theme magics cannot cast spells inconsistent with their theme, even if their axiom otherwise allows for the spell effect.
> 
> But once they have the skills, they can use these tools.

Isn't that just what I said? "Ayslish magicians cannot use Engineering spells or cast Occult rituals without learning new skills."

This means that, once they learn the new skills, they can.

An Ayslish Magician who learns the Occult skill can use Occult rituals.

I never said differently. In the chart, the Traditions article, anything I've posted. Certainly, I never meant to imply otherwise.

"Ayslish mages can't learn the Occult skill" isn't part of my axiom chart, either in theory or mechanics.  If any language I used in the most recent Axiom chart post implied this, please tell me what it is, so I can alter it.

[Possibly confusing but necessary side note: In specific cosms, it may be that Traditions are exclusive: learning one precludes ever learning about another. This is a local peculiarity and would probably need to be justified by a World Law or a convincing setting detail. Local peculiarity, it's possible but not a general rule.]

> And while it
> is true that Core Earth bards cannot cast voodoo spells as bardic
> magic,

Exactly. Their Traditions limits what spells they can cast in two ways: 1.) specific effects are unavailable (even if otherwise allowed by the axiom) and 2.) they cannot cast another Tradition's spells, until they translate those spells into their own Tradition.

(At Earth's axiom level, a cosm with Axiom 13 doesn't need to do this.)

> neither can they play bagpipe music using a tuba.


And learning to play the tuba requires effort, it requires an investment of time and skill. It isn't just "free".

I'm not sure I need to reply to each of the other individual paragraphs, because (unless I am simply misunderstanding what you mean) you object to something that isn't part of the theory behind the chart or the chart itself. 

You think a specific rule is wrong, but since I'm not using that rule, it's moot.

Perhaps this was all a misunderstanding.
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